1 00:00:18,710 --> 00:00:12,250 [Music] 2 00:00:20,750 --> 00:00:18,720 yes it said and I'm going to be taking a 3 00:00:24,769 --> 00:00:20,760 small step outside the box of pigments 4 00:00:27,170 --> 00:00:24,779 and having a look at how fluorescents 5 00:00:30,670 --> 00:00:27,180 might be a potential bio signature for 6 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:30,680 planets that experience higher UV 7 00:00:39,770 --> 00:00:36,170 radiation than more earth-like planets 8 00:00:42,290 --> 00:00:39,780 and so what I'm going to do today is to 9 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:42,300 talk about how we came up with the idea 10 00:00:48,260 --> 00:00:44,340 of looking at fluorescents add a surface 11 00:00:50,540 --> 00:00:48,270 bio signature and so the main problem we 12 00:00:51,710 --> 00:00:50,550 had was that a lot of the first planets 13 00:00:53,870 --> 00:00:51,720 that we're going to be able to 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:53,880 characterize in the habitable zones of 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:00:58,170 stars are these n star planets that are 16 00:01:04,759 --> 00:01:01,170 very close in to their their host stars 17 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:04,769 and these M star can be very active they 18 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:07,200 can flare very frequently and these 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:11,040 players can often in x-ray or extreme UV 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:14,250 wavelengths or at the longer wavelength 21 00:01:18,770 --> 00:01:16,890 UV that can be detrimental to any 22 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:18,780 surface life that might be exposed to it 23 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:21,330 and so we want what we wanted to to do 24 00:01:25,790 --> 00:01:23,310 is to try and think of ways in which 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:25,800 life could exist on these planets but 26 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:28,890 actually still be detectable because it 27 00:01:34,039 --> 00:01:31,710 because if you live it on a UV bathed 28 00:01:35,660 --> 00:01:34,049 world in order to protect yourself your 29 00:01:37,870 --> 00:01:35,670 protection mechanisms like living 30 00:01:40,460 --> 00:01:37,880 underground or living underwater then 31 00:01:42,620 --> 00:01:40,470 don't lend themselves to us remotely 32 00:01:45,410 --> 00:01:42,630 detecting life and that's where we came 33 00:01:47,710 --> 00:01:45,420 up with the idea of fluorescence which 34 00:01:50,660 --> 00:01:47,720 could be used as a sort of UV protection 35 00:01:52,370 --> 00:01:50,670 method which has knock-on effect of 36 00:01:54,020 --> 00:01:52,380 actually if there's enough aversion 37 00:01:55,910 --> 00:01:54,030 that's bright enough could actually 38 00:01:58,940 --> 00:01:55,920 signal the presence of life on the 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:01:58,950 surface compared to these other source 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:01,290 UV protection mechanisms that life can 41 00:02:06,170 --> 00:02:04,170 use and so I'm going to start just by 42 00:02:08,149 --> 00:02:06,180 doing a brief overview of fluorescence 43 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:08,159 in the natural world 44 00:02:13,399 --> 00:02:11,610 it is everywhere in some form the 45 00:02:16,039 --> 00:02:13,409 brightness of fluorescence changes from 46 00:02:18,679 --> 00:02:16,049 organism to organism it's especially 47 00:02:20,659 --> 00:02:18,689 prevalent in marine organisms for a 48 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:20,669 variety of reasons there they use it for 49 00:02:26,730 --> 00:02:24,250 communication they use it for 50 00:02:28,710 --> 00:02:26,740 into in some coral species species they 51 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:28,720 might be using this as a UV protection 52 00:02:33,660 --> 00:02:30,730 mechanism which is where we've got this 53 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:33,670 idea from and and the idea of 54 00:02:40,110 --> 00:02:37,330 fluorescence being a globally detectable 55 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:40,120 surface by a signature is illustrated 56 00:02:45,660 --> 00:02:42,310 quite well by chlorophyll fluorescence 57 00:02:47,850 --> 00:02:45,670 on earth so chlorophyll in surface 58 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:47,860 vegetation fluorescence when it's 59 00:02:54,210 --> 00:02:52,090 exposed to UV wavelengths now this this 60 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:54,220 fluorescence effect is happening at such 61 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:56,110 a low level that it's completely drowned 62 00:03:00,990 --> 00:02:58,090 out by the ambient light environment on 63 00:03:03,450 --> 00:03:01,000 earth but if you take surface 64 00:03:06,450 --> 00:03:03,460 observations of the planet and you 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:06,460 subtract the solar radiation component 66 00:03:10,050 --> 00:03:08,410 and this orbit the other reflectance 67 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:10,060 features so that you just leave the 68 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:12,010 fluorescence behind you get this very 69 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:14,050 clear image of exactly where the 70 00:03:18,570 --> 00:03:16,330 vegetation is and then this fluorescent 71 00:03:21,390 --> 00:03:18,580 fluorescent signature provides a good 72 00:03:24,150 --> 00:03:21,400 indication of plant health you can see 73 00:03:26,700 --> 00:03:24,160 seasons changing as vegetation loses 74 00:03:30,420 --> 00:03:26,710 leaves and your regains the leaves in 75 00:03:34,020 --> 00:03:30,430 spring and so it's a very good marker 76 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:34,030 for and what surface vegetation on earth 77 00:03:40,100 --> 00:03:36,370 is doing it just happens to be not a 78 00:03:42,540 --> 00:03:40,110 very bright effect but when it comes to 79 00:03:44,430 --> 00:03:42,550 defining potential bias signatures it's 80 00:03:48,180 --> 00:03:44,440 very good to start thinking outside the 81 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:48,190 box slightly so if you can get this kind 82 00:03:53,009 --> 00:03:49,930 of detectable effect from fluorescence 83 00:03:55,170 --> 00:03:53,019 but at a low level how how much can we 84 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:55,180 scale this up such that we could 85 00:04:00,960 --> 00:03:56,890 actually have a remote to the observable 86 00:04:02,820 --> 00:04:00,970 fluorescent bio signature and and so 87 00:04:06,690 --> 00:04:02,830 what we did is we took corals as an 88 00:04:09,570 --> 00:04:06,700 example so corals are some of the most 89 00:04:12,930 --> 00:04:09,580 well studied flores's in the animal 90 00:04:15,150 --> 00:04:12,940 kingdom and and we had a conversation 91 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:15,160 with some coral biologists who are able 92 00:04:21,780 --> 00:04:17,530 to give us some measurements on how 93 00:04:23,610 --> 00:04:21,790 coral for proteins respond to UV and 94 00:04:26,490 --> 00:04:23,620 blue wavelengths and how all the 95 00:04:30,210 --> 00:04:26,500 absorption absorption and mission 96 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:30,220 profiles change and so that the very 97 00:04:35,190 --> 00:04:31,810 basic overview of fluorescence is you're 98 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:35,200 taking in high-energy photons they're 99 00:04:39,730 --> 00:04:37,490 absorbed by whatever molecule is 100 00:04:41,499 --> 00:04:39,740 absorbing them energy level of an 101 00:04:43,659 --> 00:04:41,509 electron is raised up and as that 102 00:04:46,890 --> 00:04:43,669 electron then relaxes back down a tree 103 00:04:51,010 --> 00:04:46,900 releases a photon at a longer wavelength 104 00:04:55,510 --> 00:04:51,020 and so this is why UV protection is one 105 00:04:57,879 --> 00:04:55,520 of these possibilities for corals and 106 00:05:00,700 --> 00:04:57,889 other organisms that are exposed to that 107 00:05:02,529 --> 00:05:00,710 there can be exposed to high UV because 108 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:02,539 you can take in a UV photon which can be 109 00:05:07,589 --> 00:05:04,970 biologically damaging and you can shift 110 00:05:11,140 --> 00:05:07,599 it to a longer and safer wavelength 111 00:05:13,570 --> 00:05:11,150 protecting this is a biological material 112 00:05:15,700 --> 00:05:13,580 around the fluorescent pigments or in 113 00:05:18,309 --> 00:05:15,710 the case of flora corals protect 114 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:18,319 potentially the symbiotic algae that 115 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:25,130 live within the coral and so why why is 116 00:05:30,909 --> 00:05:28,490 this a problem for n star planets but as 117 00:05:32,860 --> 00:05:30,919 I mentioned they're very active stars or 118 00:05:35,020 --> 00:05:32,870 they can be very active stars and we 119 00:05:37,899 --> 00:05:35,030 know that certainly for the planet slick 120 00:05:40,180 --> 00:05:37,909 rocks would be at the plant and the trap 121 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:40,190 is one planet their host stars are very 122 00:05:45,790 --> 00:05:43,610 active to a point that it earth-like 123 00:05:47,850 --> 00:05:45,800 planets an earth-like atmosphere would 124 00:05:52,510 --> 00:05:47,860 certainly be very affected by this and 125 00:05:54,879 --> 00:05:52,520 the flares in the e UV and x-ray x-ray 126 00:05:57,330 --> 00:05:54,889 wavelengths can have effects on a 127 00:05:59,499 --> 00:05:57,340 planet's atmosphere they can Road away 128 00:06:02,050 --> 00:05:59,509 atmospheres over time if the star is 129 00:06:03,310 --> 00:06:02,060 constantly flaring regularly and so you 130 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:03,320 could end up which much with much 131 00:06:09,999 --> 00:06:05,690 thinner atmospheres you can destroy 132 00:06:12,999 --> 00:06:10,009 ozone in the atmosphere and and this all 133 00:06:17,620 --> 00:06:13,009 can lead to higher surface UV fluxes 134 00:06:20,339 --> 00:06:17,630 then we got on earth and in terms of UV 135 00:06:23,740 --> 00:06:20,349 and we need to start thinking about the 136 00:06:28,270 --> 00:06:23,750 biologically relevant UV so you can 137 00:06:32,770 --> 00:06:28,280 split UV into three different sort of 138 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:32,780 wavelength bands and these in terms of 139 00:06:37,559 --> 00:06:34,849 the biological effects they have in 140 00:06:40,270 --> 00:06:37,569 terms of destroying DNA or causing 141 00:06:42,610 --> 00:06:40,280 mutations or various other kinds of 142 00:06:44,469 --> 00:06:42,620 biological damage the effects that 143 00:06:48,219 --> 00:06:44,479 different wavelengths of UV have on 144 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:48,229 organisms some scales with decreasing 145 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:50,810 wavelength so the UVA we 146 00:06:55,710 --> 00:06:52,490 which is most of the UV that reaches the 147 00:06:59,170 --> 00:06:55,720 surface on earth is fairly benign 148 00:07:01,659 --> 00:06:59,180 compared to UVB which can cause an order 149 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:01,669 or two of magnitude more damage and I'm 150 00:07:05,230 --> 00:07:03,410 at the moment I'm a walking example of 151 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:05,240 this because having spent three days in 152 00:07:11,950 --> 00:07:07,490 San Francisco in the Sun my UVB exposure 153 00:07:14,530 --> 00:07:11,960 is turning bright red if I had that 154 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:14,540 length that same time exposure to UV see 155 00:07:19,330 --> 00:07:16,880 I wouldn't be here right now so these 156 00:07:22,570 --> 00:07:19,340 these effects really do scale up 157 00:07:25,090 --> 00:07:22,580 dramatically but on earth so if you see 158 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:25,100 the drawing the UV surface cut off on 159 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:27,050 earth ozone is very good at filtering 160 00:07:33,129 --> 00:07:30,800 out the worst of the UV for life so UVA 161 00:07:34,990 --> 00:07:33,139 UVB can still cause damage but the 162 00:07:41,020 --> 00:07:35,000 damage rate happens at the slope for a 163 00:07:42,940 --> 00:07:41,030 slow slow rate and it can easily be so 164 00:07:45,850 --> 00:07:42,950 the biological organisms can easily 165 00:07:47,980 --> 00:07:45,860 repair themselves using various various 166 00:07:51,129 --> 00:07:47,990 different methods but if you have an M 167 00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:51,139 style planet and that is letting in more 168 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:54,110 of this UV either because it has less 169 00:08:00,130 --> 00:07:56,570 ozone or has a thinner atmosphere then 170 00:08:02,290 --> 00:08:00,140 the surface UV environment can make the 171 00:08:06,219 --> 00:08:02,300 surface a lot more inheritable for life 172 00:08:08,260 --> 00:08:06,229 and now life has various ways of 173 00:08:10,150 --> 00:08:08,270 protecting itself but as I said before 174 00:08:12,580 --> 00:08:10,160 these protection mechanisms like living 175 00:08:14,350 --> 00:08:12,590 underground or underwater aren't so good 176 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:14,360 for us to then be able to checked 177 00:08:19,870 --> 00:08:17,630 surface biosignatures because you get so 178 00:08:21,790 --> 00:08:19,880 the reflectance spectrum as they sound 179 00:08:23,500 --> 00:08:21,800 or water mixed in with whatever it is 180 00:08:26,830 --> 00:08:23,510 that's living on the surface or near the 181 00:08:28,990 --> 00:08:26,840 surface but threatens is potentially one 182 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:29,000 way of getting around this and so what 183 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:31,850 we wanted to do is just do this with 184 00:08:37,510 --> 00:08:34,610 first order of magnitude let's have a 185 00:08:39,130 --> 00:08:37,520 look at how fluorescence or how much 186 00:08:42,579 --> 00:08:39,140 fluorescence we could we would need 187 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:42,589 based on these coral proteins to cause a 188 00:08:47,380 --> 00:08:45,890 detectable signature so we'd have the 189 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:47,390 reflectance spectrum of whatever 190 00:08:51,790 --> 00:08:49,760 organism with modeling our surface 191 00:08:53,829 --> 00:08:51,800 biosphere on which in this case we use 192 00:08:55,190 --> 00:08:53,839 corals because we're working with coral 193 00:08:58,940 --> 00:08:55,200 biologists 194 00:09:00,710 --> 00:08:58,950 and we had all the spectra from them but 195 00:09:03,170 --> 00:09:00,720 this could equally work with any other 196 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:03,180 kind of organism that could potentially 197 00:09:09,290 --> 00:09:07,290 evolve and then we added a fluorescence 198 00:09:11,569 --> 00:09:09,300 effect based on the coral fluorescent 199 00:09:14,110 --> 00:09:11,579 proteins which gives you an increased 200 00:09:17,300 --> 00:09:14,120 emission to add on to the surface 201 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:17,310 reflectance feature which which could 202 00:09:21,590 --> 00:09:19,110 then cause a detectable spike in a 203 00:09:24,470 --> 00:09:21,600 certain wavelength and and so this is 204 00:09:28,220 --> 00:09:24,480 what we did so we used them as a global 205 00:09:32,710 --> 00:09:28,230 coverage of this model biosphere of 206 00:09:37,030 --> 00:09:32,720 corals we added in atmosphere as 207 00:09:39,829 --> 00:09:37,040 earth-like atmosphere over the top but 208 00:09:42,860 --> 00:09:39,839 adapted so as an earth-like atmosphere 209 00:09:44,180 --> 00:09:42,870 would appear around an M star and then 210 00:09:45,769 --> 00:09:44,190 we looked at different fractions of 211 00:09:47,509 --> 00:09:45,779 coverage on the surface so we started 212 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:47,519 with a whole biosphere and then we split 213 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:50,690 it up into fractions of open ocean and 214 00:09:56,030 --> 00:09:53,010 with different cloud coverage over the 215 00:10:01,880 --> 00:09:56,040 top to investigate how detectable this 216 00:10:04,069 --> 00:10:01,890 feature would be and so we we will have 217 00:10:06,290 --> 00:10:04,079 free reign with deciding how strong a 218 00:10:08,060 --> 00:10:06,300 fluorescence could be and so what we 219 00:10:12,230 --> 00:10:08,070 modeled initially as a best-case 220 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:12,240 scenario was fluorescence that is 100% 221 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:14,850 efficient so it's taking every photon 222 00:10:20,530 --> 00:10:18,570 that is absorbed it really and then we 223 00:10:24,050 --> 00:10:20,540 assumed we had a very dense coverage and 224 00:10:26,210 --> 00:10:24,060 that effect so that such as quenching 225 00:10:27,530 --> 00:10:26,220 which can turn there which students 226 00:10:29,540 --> 00:10:27,540 effectively destroy a fluorescent 227 00:10:32,269 --> 00:10:29,550 pigments could be reversible which is 228 00:10:35,660 --> 00:10:32,279 something you can see in certain certain 229 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:35,670 fluorescent proteins and so we ran that 230 00:10:40,430 --> 00:10:37,649 through a model and as you can see at 231 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:40,440 the bottom there the these reflectance 232 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:42,510 spectra are slowly adapting based once 233 00:10:48,050 --> 00:10:44,130 we start adding layers of land of 234 00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:48,060 surface of clouds and the sort of spike 235 00:10:51,889 --> 00:10:50,160 you can see just after 500 so we were 236 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:51,899 looking so the ones I'm showing here are 237 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:55,680 green fluorescence proteins this is the 238 00:11:00,889 --> 00:10:58,170 sort of sort of like a bit like the 239 00:11:03,259 --> 00:11:00,899 vegetation red edge a very large very 240 00:11:05,130 --> 00:11:03,269 sudden spike in reflectance at a given 241 00:11:07,530 --> 00:11:05,140 wavelength and 242 00:11:10,130 --> 00:11:07,540 but we could then do is plot this onto 243 00:11:13,310 --> 00:11:10,140 the color diagram color color diagram 244 00:11:16,170 --> 00:11:13,320 which is effectively just comparing the 245 00:11:19,230 --> 00:11:16,180 strengths of reflectance at certain 246 00:11:21,780 --> 00:11:19,240 wavelength bands and so Sid is our 247 00:11:23,519 --> 00:11:21,790 resident color colored diagram expert at 248 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:23,529 the Carl Sagan Institute and so here 249 00:11:29,579 --> 00:11:26,050 we'll go into these these diagrams in a 250 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:29,589 lot more detail next I think and but the 251 00:11:34,829 --> 00:11:32,970 the main thing here is to see how 252 00:11:38,430 --> 00:11:34,839 fluorescence affects the surface 253 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:38,440 reflectance of our model planets so when 254 00:11:44,970 --> 00:11:41,370 the coral biosphere is not fluorescing 255 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:44,980 so we took four different example 256 00:11:50,430 --> 00:11:47,440 species of coral labeled A to D which 257 00:11:52,410 --> 00:11:50,440 are the gray squares on this diagram and 258 00:11:55,380 --> 00:11:52,420 then when fluorescence turns on so you 259 00:11:59,009 --> 00:11:55,390 can imagine this so say a large flare 260 00:12:00,840 --> 00:11:59,019 hits the planet the UV levels spike the 261 00:12:03,269 --> 00:12:00,850 biosphere then starts fluorescing in 262 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:03,279 response to this huge UV flux increase 263 00:12:11,460 --> 00:12:06,490 and then as it fluorescence it moves its 264 00:12:14,850 --> 00:12:11,470 position in the in color space fairly 265 00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:14,860 significantly and and so this is the 266 00:12:19,860 --> 00:12:16,720 sort of detectable effect we wanted to 267 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:19,870 start thinking about so a planet is 268 00:12:25,199 --> 00:12:22,570 would effectively be turning itself into 269 00:12:29,069 --> 00:12:25,209 sort of a lighthouse like beacon as this 270 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:29,079 surface biosphere lights up and so what 271 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:30,970 I've shown here is the best case so this 272 00:12:34,949 --> 00:12:32,320 is where we just have an entire planet 273 00:12:37,259 --> 00:12:34,959 clear sky is covered in a fluorescent 274 00:12:39,060 --> 00:12:37,269 biosphere and obviously the effect of 275 00:12:41,069 --> 00:12:39,070 this or the magnitude of this change 276 00:12:42,660 --> 00:12:41,079 will change depending on the fraction of 277 00:12:44,610 --> 00:12:42,670 the surface coverage and the brightness 278 00:12:48,569 --> 00:12:44,620 of the effect but this illustrates it 279 00:12:51,420 --> 00:12:48,579 quite nicely and so there are other 280 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:51,430 things that for us so of all sorts of 281 00:12:54,530 --> 00:12:52,930 things fluoresce as long as you've got 282 00:12:57,870 --> 00:12:54,540 the right structure you can have 283 00:12:59,370 --> 00:12:57,880 something that will fluoresce and one of 284 00:13:04,680 --> 00:12:59,380 the things we wanted to compare to here 285 00:13:05,970 --> 00:13:04,690 is threatened minerals but so we a lot 286 00:13:08,009 --> 00:13:05,980 of the fluorescent minerals that 287 00:13:10,079 --> 00:13:08,019 fluoresced at the same wavelength as the 288 00:13:13,069 --> 00:13:10,089 sort of various coral fluorescent 289 00:13:16,019 --> 00:13:13,079 proteins that we investigated we're all 290 00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:16,029 roughly in that area of this diagram so 291 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:17,600 they were all fairly separate 292 00:13:22,660 --> 00:13:20,510 and when they were and we're not 293 00:13:24,190 --> 00:13:22,670 fluorescing they hardly moved at all 294 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:24,200 because the strength of the fluorescence 295 00:13:32,130 --> 00:13:28,730 effect was so low and so we're sort of 296 00:13:35,710 --> 00:13:32,140 using the argument here that if if 297 00:13:37,930 --> 00:13:35,720 fluorescence evolved as a UV protection 298 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:37,940 mechanism in whatever surface biases 299 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:40,490 lives on these planets bright 300 00:13:44,140 --> 00:13:42,530 fluorescence would be favored by 301 00:13:46,660 --> 00:13:44,150 evolution if this is an effective 302 00:13:48,130 --> 00:13:46,670 protection mechanism whereas these 303 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:48,140 fluorescent minerals 304 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:50,170 would not be subject to some Darwinian 305 00:13:54,670 --> 00:13:52,250 evolutionary rules and so they would 306 00:13:58,930 --> 00:13:54,680 just be fluorescing as they're naturally 307 00:14:00,760 --> 00:13:58,940 low levels and so in a way it could be 308 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:00,770 distinguishable from false positives 309 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:04,490 like that and there other possibilities 310 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:06,130 such as irori 311 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:08,510 but if you had know something about the 312 00:14:12,970 --> 00:14:10,370 chemical composition of an atmosphere 313 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:12,980 then if you detect an auroral emission 314 00:14:17,230 --> 00:14:15,290 and you know that a certain molecule is 315 00:14:19,390 --> 00:14:17,240 present that causes that color of 316 00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:19,400 emission then you could argue that we 317 00:14:24,070 --> 00:14:20,720 can say that's not fluorescence at 318 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:24,080 Aurora so they it could potentially be 319 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:25,970 distinguished distinguishable from other 320 00:14:32,110 --> 00:14:29,450 false positives and so this is just a 321 00:14:34,090 --> 00:14:32,120 quick illustration of how high the UV 322 00:14:37,150 --> 00:14:34,100 levels can get during the flare so this 323 00:14:39,460 --> 00:14:37,160 is for a very active M star ad Leo and 324 00:14:41,830 --> 00:14:39,470 gray line there is the top of the 325 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:41,840 atmosphere solar UV emission that we get 326 00:14:47,020 --> 00:14:44,560 on earth and so the star is normally 327 00:14:48,970 --> 00:14:47,030 giving a planet Earth's equivalent 328 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:48,980 distance a much lower flux the moon get 329 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:51,050 on earth and but when it flares it can 330 00:14:55,690 --> 00:14:53,570 jump up by an order of magnitude or more 331 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:55,700 in terms of the UV flux that could reach 332 00:15:00,340 --> 00:14:57,410 these planets so we could get very high 333 00:15:02,650 --> 00:15:00,350 UV fluxes and one thing we've done 334 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:02,660 recently Lisa and I at the Carl Sagan 335 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:06,610 Institute we wrote a quick paper for the 336 00:15:10,540 --> 00:15:08,570 proximate Eid for the Trappist one 337 00:15:12,850 --> 00:15:10,550 planet to look at what UV levels they 338 00:15:15,070 --> 00:15:12,860 would get and we look to nurse-like 339 00:15:16,900 --> 00:15:15,080 atmosphere and an earth-like atmosphere 340 00:15:20,020 --> 00:15:16,910 that's been eroded so much thinner and 341 00:15:22,690 --> 00:15:20,030 then a then a completely anoxic 342 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:22,700 oxygen-free atmosphere and so in all of 343 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:24,770 these cases this is the oxygen-free 344 00:15:28,870 --> 00:15:27,530 atmosphere you get a lot more UVC coming 345 00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:28,880 to the planet so the really damaging 346 00:15:32,079 --> 00:15:29,600 wavelength 347 00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:32,089 but they're still at a much lower lower 348 00:15:37,180 --> 00:15:35,600 level than I and so UV protection 349 00:15:40,780 --> 00:15:37,190 mechanisms like for essence could 350 00:15:43,870 --> 00:15:40,790 potentially work without UVC completely 351 00:15:47,710 --> 00:15:43,880 destroying everything and and so I'll